Will U.S. Trust plus Bank of America equal the nation’s pre-eminent private wealth management firm? Frances Aldrich Sevilla-Sacasa thinks so.
Frances Aldrich Sevilla-Sacasa
is the president of U.S. Trust, Bank of America Private Wealth
Management. The company had approximately $225.3 billion in client
assets under management at September 30. Private Wealth Managing Editor
Dorothy Hinchcliff interviewed Sevilla-Sacasa recently about how the
firm is changing and positioning itself in the private wealth
management business.
Hinchcliff:
A major reorganization at U.S. Trust has been under way since the
announcement in November 2006 that Bank of America would be acquiring
it from the Charles Schwab Corporation. Last April, Bank of America
announced that Peter Scaturro, U.S. Trust’s CEO at the time, would not
be coming on board. Since the deal closed in early July, many others
have left and many people have been hired into new positions. How would
you describe the structural changes at U.S. Trust, Bank of America
Private Wealth Management, and how do you think they will position you
to compete strategically in the private wealth management business?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
I think we should take a look at what we have today on a combined basis
because the opportunity in front of us is about creating the
pre-eminent wealth management firm in the country. It wasn’t about just
adopting the Bank of America private banking organization model or the
U.S. Trust organization model, but about creating a distinctive,
enhanced new organization that brings the best attributes, the best
features, of both and the best skill set to form a new company. We can
do more for our clients today than any one of the legacy companies
could do before.
Hinchcliff:
As part of the various transitions, on July 23 Bank of America
announced key national appointments to lead four teams that would serve
clients: investments, specialized client solutions, wealth structuring
and credit and banking delivery. How do these teams differ from what
you had in place before and what do you see as their goals?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
Both legacy firms delivered a comprehensive set of solutions to their
clients prior to coming together. What we now have is the ability to
integrate all of our solutions within the private wealth management
organization. ... We have those solutions groups embedded into our
divisional teams, where the experts and the specialists are based
locally with private client advisors in our over 144 locations around
the country. We had those kinds of solutions organizations embedded
within U.S. Trust. Bank of America, as I mentioned, offered all of
these capabilities. We wanted to make sure that we had very high
standards on how we would actually offer these solutions, how to
deliver them, and to make sure that there was some uniformity across
the country so our clients, regardless of where they are located, were
able to leverage the broad capabilities of both organizations coming
together. For example, if you take one of those solutions
organizations, let’s say wealth structuring, that organization in
particular has all of the solutions that have to do with trust and
estate planning, estate settlement, financial planning, tax planning,
special asset management, philanthropic management ... those types of
services is what is encompassed with wealth structuring.
You
probably know that we are one of the largest corporate trustees for
individuals, families and special assets, like oil and gas properties,
like ranches, timberland and so on. With our firms coming together, we
now, for example, just on the trust side, have a lot deeper expertise
within the company. So we wanted to make sure that all of that thought
leadership, the professional talent that we have in the organization,
was accessible to all of our clients. We want to make sure that we had
a national approach towards offering our best thinking and our best
capabilities and solutions to our clients. We have the ability to do
that in more locations than any other firm out there, and that is
compelling to our clients because they can have access to that deep
intellectual capital, the expertise and broad solutions on a local
level with their local teams.
Hinchcliff:
How many people in the combined organization do you have, and how many
are deployed in areas where they are in contact with clients,
client-facing positions?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
The combined organization has over 4,600 associates, most of whom are
client-facing, and that number does not include people in many of our
support areas. For example, the finance organization is providing
support to U.S. Trust, and the human resource organization and the
marketing organization. Those are additional resources that actually
support U.S. Trust.
Hinchcliff: How does that number compare with competitors?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
We are the leading private bank today in terms of the number of offices
we have throughout the country, assets under management and total
client assets and in the number of associates.
Hinchcliff: When you look at the firm’s private wealth accounts that belong to individuals, how has that changed?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
When you compare apples to apples in combining both legacy
organizations, we have actually seen an increase in our assets under
management for two reasons: One is because we have had net new inflows
of assets under management from existing clients and from new clients,
and also because of positive market action.
Hinchcliff:
I have a question involving strategy concerning services and products.
Bank of America, as of course we all know, is a banking behemoth that
certainly was serving private wealth clients before its merger with
U.S. Trust. But most of its business, and what it has been most known
for, has been serving the mass market with its 5,700 retail banking
offices in the United States and 56 million relationships in the U.S.
alone. Some observers predict it will be difficult for it to provide
enough focus on highly customized, and often high-cost, services that
the ultrarich want. U.S. Trust has been known for serving the
ultrarich, particularly those with $50 million or more in assets.
On
the other hand, the profile of rich people is changing—many have built
substantial wealth through their own businesses and many more are
women. In recognition of these changes, Bank of America kicked off a
$25 million “New Face of Wealth” ad campaign in October for U.S. Trust
in 50 markets across the country. How is the firm redefining its
customer base and how do you think this will affect its competitive
position going forward?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
I think one of the beauties of the two firms coming together is that
both have a very long tradition of individuals and families, and you
correctly note that Bank of America has a great deal of strength in
serving individual clients, from the retail client to the mass affluent
to the highest-net-worth markets. The legacy private bank of Bank of
America had a very large and terrific clientele.
Obviously,
U.S. Trust also had a very long tradition and history, dating back to
over 150 years of also serving individuals and families. The difference
is that the U.S. Trust history and legacy has been primarily on the
high-net-worth side whereas Bank of America, in general, has served
many different types of clients. But within their private bank they
were serving a customer base that was very similar to the U.S. Trust
client base. Now you have seen our new ad campaign, right?
When
you compare apples to apples in combining both legacy organizations, we
have actually seen an increase in our assets under management.
Hinchcliff: Yes.
Sevilla-Sacasa:
During the transition process, obviously, we did a lot of extensive
research on the high-net-worth market. ... What we saw through the
research is a new face of wealth. The majority of our clients today
have built their own wealth or have grown their own wealth. An
increasing number of high-net-worth clients have earned their wealth
through their careers. Many of our clients today are also entrepreneurs
and they continue to be very actively involved in their careers and in
their businesses. And if you look at our ad campaign, we have
incorporated that new face of the client today. Those clients want to
make sure that their values are preserved. Many of these very
successful and very wealthy clients today actually had normal
middle-class upbringings. And they have very, very strong values, and
they are committed to making sure that they preserve what they have.
When we help them with their philanthropy they want to make sure that
those values are passed on as well.
Hinchcliff:
It sounds like a more multidimensional type of client that you might be
serving, but could you tell us what the old face of clients would have
been so we would have a clear contrast of what we are talking about?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
When we sit down with clients today we are, in many instances, dealing
with many different family members who are involved in a variety of
different businesses. And we are better positioned today to be able to
look at all of the family members’ needs and to look at both sides of
the balance sheet. Bank of America has a very important capability that
emanates from having one of the strongest balance sheets in the
industry, so we can serve a client’s credit needs and banking needs
better than any other firm out there, whether it’s for their
businesses, whether it’s for buying aircraft or lending against their
art collection. We can manage their assets, their investment
portfolios, their trust and estate plans for future generations: We can
help them with their philanthropic management. We help them with
non-traditional types of assets—like ranches they might have or
timberland properties or oil and gas leases. We can serve today’s kind
of clients much better than ever before as a result of both firms
coming together.
Hinchcliff:
Would you say that in the past in the private wealth management
business, clients typically had wealth that was inherited or that was
within the family for many years? I am sure you still serve those
clients as well, but were clients a more homogeneous group previously?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
We are still serving many clients whose families have been clients of
the firms for generations, but what we are finding is ... they are
still very actively involved in growing that wealth. They continue to
be very active in business or as professionals, and so they have used
their wealth to grow their wealth to ensure that they continue that
kind of legacy for the successive generations. The families we serve
are typically multigenerational, and we are serving different family
members who might be in different industries, might be in different
parts of the country and different parts of the world. As a result,
they have different needs. So even though we are serving one family, we
are still really serving many different unique clients within that
family with unique needs.
Hinchcliff:
Speaking of capabilities and services, when the merger was announced,
Bank of America said it was integrating the investment management
business of U.S. Trust with Columbia Management, Bank of America’s
asset management organization. Also, the alternative investments groups
of both companies were combined. In October, the company announced it
launched a unified managed account program for wealthy and
ultra-wealthy clients wanting comprehensive yet tailored solutions to
investments. What do you feel these changes offer your client base? Are
other major changes in products and services for the wealthy planned?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
For many years and decades throughout our history, U.S. Trust had
special expertise in managing investment portfolios for our clients,
and obviously Bank of America has a very strong expertise through
Columbia Management. So putting those two platforms together gives us a
competitive advantage that few other private wealth management firms
have. In addition, we also combined both of our alternative investment
platforms. At U.S. Trust we are committed to open architecture for our
clients. We do it well with the firm’s proprietary asset management
capabilities, but we also draw upon third-party managers. We have
access to much deeper research through Columbia Management that firms
who don’t have proprietary asset management can’t access internally. We
also have the ability to select external managers as we see fit to
deploy our investment strategy on behalf of our clients.
Hinchcliff:
The merger does definitely seem to be helping U.S. Trust have a greater
reach in many markets. U.S. Trust, as of course you know, will now have
a major presence in Chicago as a result of Bank of America’s offices
there and Bank of America’s acquisition of LaSalle Bank. Chicago and
Illinois have been the major base for one of your competitors, Northern
Trust. How do you feel this expansion positions you to serve private
wealth clients and, in general, how do you think Bank of America’s
footprint will help U.S. Trust reach more ultra-wealthy clients?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
We are very excited about incorporating our LaSalle teammates into U.S.
Trust, Bank of America Private Wealth Management. We couldn’t be more
excited about the opportunity that we have in Chicago, one of the major
wealth centers in the United States. Think about it. Bank of America
had a very strong location—a very strong office there, a very strong
position in Chicago. Now we have LaSalle Bank, with its wonderful
reputation and tradition and history in that marketplace. Both are
coming together under U.S. Trust in Chicago. That is one of the more
promising opportunities I think we have today. We are already very
strong in so many key markets. In California, in the Southeast and
Texas. I believe we will become the preeminent wealth management firm
in Chicago over the next few years, given that combination.
Hinchcliff:
I’m pretty much near the end of my questions. I just want to note that
you bring a lot to the table as president of U.S. Trust. You have many
years of experience in serving the private wealth market, especially
global wealth management, and you speak four languages. I would like to
wrap up our interview with you telling me how you think your personal
strengths will help guide the firm in the future.
Sevilla-Sacasa:
I do have extensive experience of about 25 years in private wealth
management. During that time I have been very close to clients, so I
think bringing the client’s voice and my experience into U.S. Trust—I
have led successful private banking organizations in the past as
well—gives me the kind of experience that I need. What’s even more
important is my ability to really bring together a group of leaders,
bring together people with different skill sets, different backgrounds.
At U.S. Trust I do feel we have a top-tier leadership team in place.
... So I think that really it’s not only what I bring to the table but
also what we have together to really succeed.
Hinchcliff: Is there anything else that you want to touch on before we end our interview?
Sevilla-Sacasa:
We spoke about the ad campaign and I don’t know if you saw this, but we
have just spent a considerable amount of resources and money on really
launching our brand through this campaign, and that is an amount that
neither Bank of America nor U.S. Trust had ever committed before to the
private banking business. That should give you an idea of Bank of
America’s commitment to the business, not only through their
acquisition of U.S. Trust but also having spent $25 million through
2007 on the marketing campaign, which is the most expensive campaign
that either legacy firm had ever undertaken. So this really underscores
the bank’s commitment ... to being the preeminent firm and the leader
in the industry.
Hinchcliff: I wish you good luck with that goal and I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me today. Thanks again.
